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topic posted Fri, October 27, 2006 - 7:15 AM by  Bob
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We're looking at an apartment that may have some mold near the furnace. What qualiications should we ask for when hiring an inspector/remediator? The owner is willing to pay for the work.
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    Fri, October 27, 2006 - 7:39 AM
    if your state licenses inspectors, check his license status, and also probably somewhere on your state's web sites, there is a db of complaints filed agaisnt license holders.
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    Fri, October 27, 2006 - 12:10 PM
    A little mold isn't an issue. A lot can be a serious issue. Or it might not be.
    For years and years I lived with zero reaction to mold spores while living in old (150 - 250 years old) buildings.

    This year I developed a reaction to black mold spores.

    Now I am on a campaign to kill it - Kill it that is knowing full that it will be back.

    I use two things to kill mold
    Bleach plain olf fashioned straight bleach
    and
    Sporcidin
    www.sporicidin.com/-ordering.htm

    Sporcidin is hugely effective and provides some residual effect though it's not long lasting.

    I am considering installing UV lamps in my cellar to kill the mold spores there.
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    Fri, October 27, 2006 - 12:11 PM
    Oh you can have the place inspected. It's easy they leave a sample collector open for a period and go analyze / culture it.
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      Fri, November 3, 2006 - 8:05 AM
      clove oil is very good (bad) for mould too
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        Fri, November 17, 2006 - 7:24 PM
        clove oil is also kinda toxic to humans as well...

        Mold- we moved into a house with the stuff and I've been suffering with headaches ever since.
        If you don't know where it is, then you will have a nightmare locating it.
        it costs about $500 - $1000 to have the air quality survey done and another $1000 or more to have the stuff treated - depending on where it is unless you bleach it yourself regularly.
        If it's in the walls forget it.

        Use your nose when buying a new place. I will never listen to the Exclsuive buying agent again when I say to them "It smells of mold in here" and they reply "I don't smell anything." (They're all in it for themselves - don't buy the exclsuive agents are better agents BS!)

        The mold in our house is still not all located and we have to tear apart and remodel several areas to get rid of it - about $30000 worth or work and thats if we do it ourselves - which we cant.

        Be very careful.
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          Fri, November 17, 2006 - 7:26 PM
          in terms of treatment - ozone machines are sposed to be good tho ive not tried them
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          Fri, November 17, 2006 - 7:58 PM
          kinda off topic, but depending on the company your agent worked for, you may have some recourse meka.... send me a PM and we can talk....

          i've read that a borax and water solution helps kill the stuff too....
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          Tue, November 21, 2006 - 9:06 AM
          When you say "suffering with headaches ever since," did you mean it figuratively or literally? We've got mold in our apartment and I've been having quite a problem with headaches and was wondering whether it could be the mold.
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            Wed, November 22, 2006 - 3:32 PM
            heidski - yes - literally getting headaches - sinusitis.
            I had to buy a 1000 sq ft air purifier and also saw the doctor who prescrbed flonase - both really help.

            I would recommend doing both and seeing if it helps. If it doesn't you can always return the air purifier after a good month.
            Make sure you get one with a HEPA filter.
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    Sun, November 5, 2006 - 11:23 AM
    mold seeks darkness and still air. dehydration kills it instantly. a fan and a 100 watt incandescent light will do wonders.
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    Mon, November 27, 2006 - 1:38 PM
    I have been nearly killed dead by every damm house I've tried to live in for the last 10 yrs.....mold is a BIG problem and serious health risk........especially black mold. it is brutally hard to combat. bleach (although extremely toxic to the ozone etc.) is one of the best agents to kill mold and spores. spruce, eucalyptus, peppermint, and a few other natural oils are also helpfull. I'm not positive whom to contact as a qualified inspecter in your area, but you can get mold test kits online......
    if you can live elsewhere do that; if you love the space, and owner is funding the operation, gut all drywall/other wallboard, insulation etc. in the area, and as far into the wall as any sign of mold is found, clean well, clean it some more, coat with 'KILZ' {a paintable coating which helps protect against mold, stains, etc., re-insulate, drywall, and so forth....failure to remove any affected materials, will result in mold spreading up and down every wall of the building, into the roof, and on until the building is then beyond salvage......good luck, and good health. Fair thee well,
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      Mon, November 27, 2006 - 3:30 PM
      >bleach (although extremely toxic to the ozone etc< ???????? Toxic, that's a new one on me. Sodium Hypochlorite is the standard sanatizer for Hospitals, resturants, kennels, commercail livestock houses, water treatment plants, etc., etc. around the world. And it is THE agent used buy all commercail mold removel co.'s. Most code inforcement agencies require it's use to remove mold, for re-ocupancy permits.
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        Tue, November 28, 2006 - 8:36 AM
        I don't think there is much (if any) evidence pointing to bleach as harmful to the ozone layer. She must have gotten her facts mixed up.
        Ozone does, however, smell like bleach! Ick.
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          Tue, December 12, 2006 - 2:02 PM
          THE best thing to kill mould with, and have it stay away is thyme oil.
          i've tried everything and always had it come back, be it red mould, black mould, you name it, it will vanish with thyme oil.
          a friend of mine suggested this to me a while ago, she works with heritage properties and said the spray they use to kill mold has 100% thyme oil in it.

          i've done my windows and the bathroom, and none of it has come back even tho the water has been accumulating in same places.
          the only warning i have for you is, do not get this on delicate skin or it will sting. and do not over do it before bed or it will make you hyper.
          oh and do not leave the undiluted oil on painted surfaces, it will peel the paint if you let it sit.
          however it is non toxic and can be used on sore throat/strep infections and even ingested with non toxic effects.

          what i do is put half oil and half vinegar (like salad dressing ;-P in a spray bottle and go at the mould, then i scrub it a bit to help it lift, which it does right way, then i wipe, and might give an extra spray after.

          goof for counters, porous surfaces and cutting boards too!

          bleach is no good for you, and mould will come back. bleach fumes are especially harmful to your lungs and mucous membranes!
          ozone can be harmful too if you are left in the room or leave your pet in it. always air out after ozone.
          ozone is mostly used for eliminating smells.
          we have an ozone machine but it didn't work on our mould, nor did steam, bleach, ajax, clove, peppermint, sulfur, dishsoap, teatree.
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          Wed, December 13, 2006 - 7:56 AM
          If I recall the stuff about Ozone was proved entirely wrong.
          Exactly like that theory about Global Cooling was wrong in the 1970's - 80's
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    Tue, December 12, 2006 - 5:57 PM

    Finding someone with CIH (Certified Industrial Hygienist) behind their name is a good start (people do good work without CIH behind their name, btw, but it's a start.) Before hirin gthem, ask for references and ask what sort of work they've done in the past.

    American Industrial Hygiene Assocation has a search page for mold remediators who are also CIH: www.aiha.org/Content/Acc...ntsearch.htm

    Links to info on mold in homes:

    AIHA: www.aiha.org/Content/Acc...boutmold.htm

    Center For Disease Control: www.cdc.gov/health/mold.html and do-it-yourself: www.cdc.gov/mold/cleanup.htm

    EPA: www.epa.gov/iaq/molds/moldguide.html (also see www.epa.gov/iaq/molds/moldcleanup.html for guidelines on what a contractor should do)
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      Tue, December 12, 2006 - 6:10 PM

      And you don't necessarily need to hire an expert, you can do it yourself if the area is small - I expect we've all scrubbed small spots of mold off our bathrooms at some point in our lives to no ill effect... For reasonable-sized patches of mold, it's a good diea to wear a "N95" face mask, remove the moldy material if you can, if you can't use a solution of 1c bleach:1gal water to kill it and a scrubby or wire brush to remove it, and follow this by wiping down all surfaces and vacuuming the dust with a HEPA-filtered vaccuum then airing out the room by opening the windows.

      If there is more than 10sqft of growth, you might want to look into a professional to help you not spread spores through the rest of your home.

      And if you're doing it yourself be sure to fix the water intrusion problem or else mold will grow back after no matter how well you clean it.
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        Sun, December 17, 2006 - 1:03 PM
        www.ecoquestintl.com/index_home.asp

        i got one os there machines about a year ago ....
        up untill then i was basicly dealling with all sorts of allergiy type problems that cleared up if i spent any amount of time out side or in the car ...
        i have notice very dramatic diffrences since useing there machine, no more sinus headaches , stuffy face upon wakeing up ... there ssoo many dfiffrences . i hope this helps :)

        there are dozens of reviews at there site :)
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          Sun, December 17, 2006 - 1:29 PM
          Some citrus products can work well. Citracidal, which is grape fruit seed extract. . .and Citrasolve. You have to be very thorough, of course and do it repeatedly to kill the spores. It may well come back, however. At least there is an effective, relatively non-toxic tool to suppress it.

          Better yet is to find another house. Your health is worth it! No?
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            Sun, December 17, 2006 - 7:50 PM
            Equally effective to bleach but less nasty is either 70% ethanol or 70% isoproyl alcohol aka rubbing alcohol, which can be bought at a drug store or a hardware store.

            If using alcohol, soak the surface and allow it to evaporate off. (70% alcohol is actually the best, moreso than higher or lower concentrations because of how it is absorbed into then dessicates cells.)

            But how does the saying go? An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure? Fix your water problem and clean it well and it won't come back. Clean it well but leave the water problem and you'll keep getting new growth over and over.

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