I have a balcony at the front of my apartment that the local pigeons have decided is THE best place for hanging out, building their nests, and of course, defecating copiously. Does anyone have any ideas as to how to keep them away? I'm thinking about getting one of those life-size plastic owls that supposedly scare birds away, but I'm not sure if that actually works or not...
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Sun, March 23, 2008 - 1:55 PMI've read about sailors putting shiny stuff to keep the birds off their sailboats. Crinkled aluminum and CDs seem to do the job. And our local transit authority has put up spikes and chicken wire to keep the birds out. But they find a way in anyway. Best bet: Keep a kittycat or peregrine falcon chained to your balcony. One or both'll keep them pigeons away. -
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Sun, March 23, 2008 - 2:01 PMHow about a mongoose? Yeah a balcony mongoose........ -
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Sun, March 23, 2008 - 5:09 PMCatch em, and eat em. Mmmmmmm free Squab !
Hanging shinny stuff works great, I use cd's in my garden, no bird problems at all.
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 6:49 AMHA HA HA what a bummer
There are lots of ways some may be more effective than others.
First try a plastic owl or hawk. Don't ask me if these gadgets work: I haven't a clue. But if they do, it's the cheapest and easiest solution.
You can epoxy sharp projections from the sill spaced closely enough that the pigeons find it uncomfortable and go elsewhere to shit. Use that epoxy that comes in a tube that you mold like play dough. They sell it in hardware and auto parts stores every where. Billy Mays ( that shouting idiot with the shoe polish in his beard and hair) sells the same stuff for six times the retail cost on TV calling it super putty or some such crap. .
Or you can go to any farm supply and get yourself a plug in electric charger and some of that aluminum wire and jerry rig some way to get the wire to clip into plastic stand offs around the sill area shocking the little fuckers off so they don't come back. You will need to run a dual wire system with ground wires and how wires strung right next to each other so that the birds can't touch one without also touching the other.
Because pigeons are insulated with lots of dusty dry feathers I rather suspect you'll have to get the heavier duty charger to get through the feathers. On the flip side if they are going to be touching the wires with their feet you will want the cheaper weaker charger cause the feet aren't insulated.
It really depends on how and where you run your wires.
I'd get a plastic cutting board cut two pieces to size of the sill. Make one about 3/4" shorter (in length) l than the other the longer one will be under the shorter one when assembled.
Drill two holes in the longer piece at the ends where it sticks out longer than the shorter piece. These holes are how you'll screw it to the sill.
Taking the shorter piece of plastic cut little notches in the ends that will trap my wires.
Wrap the wires around and connect them later. every other wire goes top the charger and the ones in the middle to a water or heating pipe ( if you have plastic pipes use to the ground wire in any electrical outlet.
Taking that other piece of plastic fasten it to the underside of the plastic with the wires wrapped on it. (to insulate the wires from the building .Screw the plastic pieces together without touching the wires with the screws.
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 7:11 AMCliff,
Is that your formula for catching and cooking all in one fell swoop ? ( swoop.. har ! )
If so, I would start with some well seasoned croutons as bait. That way they would be pre-stuffed.
The plastic Owl, works......but only with plastic pigons.
Possably a photo of George W.........being the war Hawk he is.............
Ahhh, Monday morning, caffine and cough suryp ! -
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 7:49 AMI have a plastic owl and shiny wind chimes on my balcony and no more pigons.
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 10:21 AM**********Is that your formula for catching and cooking all in one fell swoop ? ( swoop.. har ! )
If so, I would start with some well seasoned croutons as bait. That way they would be pre-stuffed.************
lol. I doubt it'd cause 'em much more than an ugly moment. They are small however. I'd be careful to observe whether the charger was powerful enough to stun 'em such that they fell to their deaths. If that happened, ( even once) I'd attenuate the voltage with an old fashioned rheostat light dimmer. It would not be well to have dozens of dead pigeons right beneath your window. Besides it'd be more fun to have 'em go shit all over some one else's window.
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 1:51 PMThe problem with a pellet gun is that you then have a a dead bird to dispose of.
It gets worse if you have nosy neighbors who might call the fish and game people.
Hunting without a permit, illegal class of weapon, there's about 5 different charges that may arise.
I had a client some years back whose husband was recently deceased. One night the cattle in the barn were acting up somethign fierce so she took her husband's rifle out to see what was what.
There was a bear in the barn. She shot it.
In the morning she called Fish & Game who came out and arrested her.
Fish & Game charged her with felony for failure to properly skin and preserve the hide and meat, along with hunting out of season and without a permit.
The joke was that they forgot to pile on with Cruelty too because she failed to perform the last rites over the bear.
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 2:05 PM"They really wanted to send this woman to prison."
Well, I can't see a reason why not.
If she had the number for fish and game to call to ask what to do about a body, then she could have called them to ask what to do about a bear.
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 2:52 PM*************If she had the number for fish and game to call to ask what to do about a body, then she could have called them to ask what to do about a bear. ************
In rural but-fuck PA at what 2:00 am ~?
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Thu, March 27, 2008 - 11:41 AMCliff are you sure this client wasn't pulling your leg? I know a lot of state DNR/Agency folks and this story sounds a little far-fetched. Here's an article from the PGC's bear guy wherein he specifically says that farmers have the right to shoot animals (including bears) that are damaging their crops or taking livestock, so long as it's reported.
www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp
Anyway, you gotta watch out with nuisance birds because many of them are protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, that carries pretty serious consequences for shooting migratory birds. The only birds NOT covered by the MBTA are the starling, common pigeon, and house sparrow. Lots of species get called "pigeons" so you gotta know what you're dealing with before you pull out the air rifle. -
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Thu, March 27, 2008 - 3:18 PMYeah, you are right about that. Don't kill the "Rock Doves".
Btw, We did find that hanging AOL Cds in a plum tree kept the pilferage down for quite a while. Your mylar may do very well.
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 2:03 PMThese work:
www.deterapigeon.com/
www.birdspikesonline.co.uk/Bird...pikes
You don't need electricity, a permit, a pellet gun, or even spare time to watch the fuckers. Just put the strips up and they don't land there anymore.
You can even hook 'em to a removable strip, so you can take 'em down when you have company.
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 3:42 PMI used to work on a horse ranch and the campesinos would put "Bird Tanglefoot" on the top railings around the feed troughs. pigeons could check in, but not back out. The campesinos would come by, twist their little necks, clip them off with a pair of dikes, and BBQ them. very tasty little grain fed buggers... And it was legal here in Southern California because they were a "pest species". -
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 3:50 PM"And it was legal here in Southern California because they were a "pest species"."
One of the best things that can happen to a delicious species is to be declared a pest species. 8D
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 3:51 PM"pigeons could check in, but not back out."
What about other birds, though. Birds that weren't part of a pest species? -
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Tue, March 25, 2008 - 3:29 PMThey were smarter birds... saw the pigeon feet and continued on their way...
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Tue, March 25, 2008 - 4:45 PMthe simpliest and cheapest thing you could try is to hang a paper bag upside down with some string from the roof of the balcony. a guy around here said the crinkly noice bothers the birds so they don't nest or hang around. :) but I believe you'd need some kind of breeze to get the effect. perhaps a small fan outside? -
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Wed, March 26, 2008 - 8:38 AMThe owls don't always work.
Bird spikes do! (links in an earlier post.)
They are used universally in public buildings
and absolutely deter pigeons. -
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Wed, March 26, 2008 - 9:22 PMFunny - my building has bird spikes in a few places, and I shit you not, every batch of spikes has a fucking bird nest in it!
I ordered a plastic owl today, and I'm going to pull some mylar out of my craft box and hang some strips of that around the patio... *keeping my fingers crossed* -
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Thu, March 27, 2008 - 10:56 AM**************Funny - my building has bird spikes in a few places, and I shit you not, every batch of spikes has a fucking bird nest in it! *********
I have seen this in Newark in the public buildings. I think what happens is litter gets blown in caught it piles up and once they can land on the litter they start the nests.
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Thu, March 27, 2008 - 10:58 AMPatio? Put a cat out there. That'll do it.
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Fri, April 4, 2008 - 9:24 PMInstall spikes yourself, closely following directions. Get the steel spikes, not the plastic ones. Use solid anchoring, probably screws.
Pigeons are pretty pervasive about where they roost. Be sure to keep an eye on the area, they will find little nooks among the spikes where you will have to bend and repair the spikes.
That is about it. have fun cleaning up the poop. -
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Sat, April 5, 2008 - 12:06 PMuse metal slinkys they are cheap and attach with staple gun
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