Neighborhood Cats Congregating On My Porches! They also Pooping in my garden!!!

topic posted Tue, September 4, 2007 - 2:13 PM by  GAYTHA
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What can I use to deter the darn cats? I have the only high and comfy porches on the block; all the cats i9n the 'hood have taken claim to them. The back porch has also been reeking of cat piss. I sprayed the area with bleach to rid the smell- but I really want to just keep them out of my yard. Unfortunately, I'm unable to have a dog at this rental unit- or I would and train it to eat cats. Is there a citronella based product that will deter them from shitting in my yard and pissing and loitering on my porches? I'm willing to invest money in a sprinkler system even!
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GAYTHA
SF Bay Area
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  • It started with one cat that pissed.

    That attracted others. They attracted others.

    After a while they became comfortable with each other's presence.

    I have found that a strong bleach solution will dissipate the cat piss stench.

    I'd suggest suing the owners - but you probably can't find them and cat ownership may be a vague notion on CA law I can't say I'm not in CA.

    The best course might be to use those live catch traps and set about trapping them and handing them over to SPCA who will kill them much more cruelly than you would if you went to Oregon captured a few Rough Skinned newts and mixed 'em up with cat food and served the mixture to the cats.
    Which latter course of action would get the Animal people after you with felony warrants in their hands.

    Go figure.
    • This sounds a bit weird. But we have lots and lots of cats that hang out in our yard, it is a real problem beacuse they scear away all of the native birds.

      My dad started of puting a little note on the collar of the cats to let the owners know that they were roming around not just in their own yards and were eating the wild birds.

      Unfortunatly they did not get the message. So then he got a cant of ]blue hair spray and when he found cats in the yard is painted a blue stripe of hair spray down their back. It did not hurt the cats at all but it got the message through to the owners, and the cats are't left to roam the street all night any more.
    • <SPCA who will kill them much more cruelly than you would if you went to Oregon captured a few Rough Skinned newts and mixed 'em up with cat food and served the mixture to the cats. >

      I did some research on your claims that this is a quick, painless death for animals. It is not. Many times, it appears the newt gets away because it causes stinging in the mouth so the animal drops it before eating it. If eaten, it will most likely be vomited back up, again, causing little harm. However, if it is not vomited back up it can lead to death.

      <www.workingdogs.com/doc0175.htm>
      Salamanders (California newt Taricha torosa)—Found in California, this is the only poisonous salamander in the United States. Symptoms are weakness and in- coordination, vomiting and diarrhea (more common in puppies) and paralysis. Poisoning episodes are generally self-limiting, but may be reduced in duration by flushing the dog's mouth with copious quantities of water.


      www.peteducation.com/article.cfm
      Toxin
      Toad and salamander venom

      Source
      All toads secrete mucus through the skin that does not taste good to other animals. Some toads, however, are actually poisonous. These include the tropical toads Bufo alvarius (Colorado River Toad) found in the Southwest desert and Bufo marinus found in Florida and Hawaii. Some other species of Bufotoads in other areas of the U.S. produce a milder venom. There is one species of poisonous salamander, the California Newt, which is found in California.

      General Information
      The toxin is produced by glands in the skin of these toads. The toxic agent is similar to the heart medication digoxin. Exposure is usually through oral exposure (the cat or dog mouthing the toad), but the toxin may also be absorbed through wounds or broken skin. There have been reports of toxicities from toads sitting in the pet's water dish.

      Toxic Dose
      Oral exposure to Bufo marinus can be fatal. The deadly effects can be seen within 15 minutes.

      Signs
      The venom is locally irritating causing head shaking, drooling, vocalizations, pawing at the mouth, retching, or vomiting. The mucus membranes may become red. In severe cases, heart rhythm disorders occur which may cause apparent blindness, seizures, collapse, and death.

      Immediate Action
      Very carefully wash mouth with large amounts of water such as from a slow moving stream of water from a hose. Seek veterinary attention.

      Veterinary Care
      General treatment: The animal's oral cavity and other exposed areas will be flushed with large amounts of water. Ideally, this is performed under anesthesia so the entire mouth and throat are rinsed. Activated charcoal may be administered.

      Supportive treatment: The animal will be monitored with an EKG and treated for heart rhythm abnormalities with a drug such as propranolol. IV fluids will be administered to maintain hydration, and any seizures. Atropine may be given to help control the drooling if no heart abnormalities are present. Sedation may be necessary.

      www.infovets.com/healthyca...Salamander

      Salamander Poisoning: The California newt, Taricha torosa, secretes a poison that can cause poisoning if the newt is picked up or swallowed by a pet.

      Clinical Signs: The poison causes weakness, incoordination, vomiting, diarrhea, and paralysis.

      Diagnosis: Diagnosis is based on a history of exposure to the newt and clinical signs of illness.

      Treatment: Treatment includes removal of the newt, flushing the mouth with copious amounts of water, and supportive care. There is no antidote. Many animals recover without therapy.

      Prevention: Prevention involves limiting pets’ access to lizards and salamanders. Pets should not be encouraged to play with or hunt lizards and salamanders.

      • *******I did some research on your claims that this is a quick, painless death for animals.************
        Clearly not enough.

        ********* It is not.*********

        That runs contrary to the facts on the ground. I have seen animals ingest them. they die within mere minutes.
        People too die and it only takes one lousy newt. Not a thing to take lightly.


        ********Many times, it appears the newt gets away because it causes stinging in the mouth so the animal drops it before eating it. If eaten, it will most likely be vomited back up, again, causing little harm. However, if it is not vomited back up it can lead to death.**************

        All of which presupposes a means of administration that is not intended to accomplish a humane end.

        At any rate I think stabbing a poor woodland creature to death (which is what you suggested) places you in a very precarious position for criticizing others. There is nothing more painful than stabbing short of being burnt alive.
  • I'd second the motion detector garden hose sprayer thingamabob for the cats. they hate water and sudden wet surprises, plus you don't have to do the work and catch them at it yourself.
    oh and cliff, in CA I believe that a cat can't be considered property in the way a dog can. must be because of their *superior intelligence* so I'm sure the blue hair spray DID hurt them Blueberry...but only their ego! which may prove to be the ultimate cat repellant after all HA~!
    • How about catching them and dressing them in silly outfits? This will really deter them from coming back.
      • Cats are creatures of resonable intelligence, and if they had a bad experience (give or take a couple more to be sure..) then they usually get the message.

        I tell my neighbors they are free to set the garden hose on them when they see them. Yes, they will come back a few more times to check if it was just a freak occurrence.. but it shouldnt take more than three or four times getting the hose on them and shouting a bit...

        So investing in a system might be a bit of overkill..

        For flower or veggie beds I recommend bird netting, - that held off my cats when I was planting., as I dont shoo them out of my own garden..

        -and to blueberry: The owner of that cat has no control over where his cat goes, so no amount of notifying will make any difference. Cats are not dogs. Cats have free will, thats what makes them appealling.
        You probably just terrified the owner and he is locking his poor cat indoors now for fear you might hurt it (and that wouldnt be the first time that happened..) SO: next time, just make the effort to shoo the cat with loud and strict determination, water guns and much hullabaloo,- maybe do it for a couple more times,- but then you should find the cat will avoid such commotion.

        Cats can be educated!-
        • to Jana

          The owner of that cat does have control over where it goes and what it does. I mention in my posts that this was not a problem with the cats but a problem with owners.

          - Firstly they could have considered not getting a cat when we live right next to a reserve which has lots of rare native birds.
          -secondly they could keep their cat indoors at night, which is when they tend to catch native birds.
          - Thirdly they should put a collar with a bell on their cats, so that they cannot sneak up on birds.

          I think that all of the above are not all too much to expect really? Do you?

          My dad started with quite a respectable way of sending a message to the owners, buying them a collar and bell and putting it on the cats with note when they were seen hanging around. But the owners were too irresponsible to do any thing.

          Yes I could spray a water gun or make noise but that would just teach the cats to say out of our yard not teach the owner how to be a responsible pet owner. Or stop the Cats from butchering endangerd native wild life for fun.

          • Wouldn't a collar with bells (or a bell that you can add to their original collar) cost just as much as a can of blue spray paint?
            • We did get a collar and a bell for each of the cats but the owners took them off. We even put a polite note on the collar requesting that they keep the cat inside at night and keep the collar on so that the cats would stop killing birds.

              It was a nice collar and bell too it was not a cheep junky one. probably cost about $6 bucks hair spray = $2
              • ********We did get a collar and a bell for each of the cats but the owners took them off. We even put a polite note on the collar requesting that they keep the cat inside at night and keep the collar on so that the cats would stop killing birds.************


                Pet People can be really weird. Some of them just refuse to apprehend that their pets are not a blessing to others.

                • <Pet People can be really weird. Some of them just refuse to apprehend that their pets are not a blessing to others. >

                  We have people in our neighborhood that allow their dogs to run around at large. It makes me crazy. I have two dogs that are both dog aggressive with strange dogs (working on it and they are getting better...slowly), so if there are any dogs loose in the neighborhood, we can't walk them. We never allow them outside (other than our backyard) without a leash. There is a GSD down the street that is always loose when his owners are outside and always starts fights with my dogs if we walk by.

                  I've even taken one person's border collie to the shelter (our county shelter sees such a high demand for adoptions that no animals get euthanized unless they are too sick to survive or so aggressive that they can't be placed - just going there you'll see multiple "adoption pending" stickers on every animal's info sheet) because it was going to get hit by a car. As it turned out, the dog ended up being very aggressive. It was fun trying to get it out of the back my SUV (I had a barrier in the back for my own dogs) with a catch pole because the shelter people didn't want to get near it.

                  I absolutely hate irresponsible pet owners. I make it a point to be responsible and make sure that my dogs and cats don't cause problems with other people. We are friends with all of our neighbors and we tell them to let us know if our dogs cause them any problems. They never do. We keep them inside with us most of the time we're home, and if it's cold out, they stay in when we aren't home. Really the only time they're outside is when it's hot out or we're going to be gone for more than a few hours (if it's cold they get the back yard and laundry room to themselves). Irresponsible pet owners make the rest of us look bad. They are the reason why there are no parks in my county where dogs are allowed even on leash.

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