Nut shell grinders

topic posted Fri, April 24, 2009 - 10:37 AM by  sharon
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I want to know how to grind nut shells. Not the nut meat, just the shells. I want to make, at home, skin exfoilerater, just for my own use, so I want the grinder to be inexpensive.

Thank you.
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sharon
Oregon
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  • Re: Nut shell grinders

    Fri, April 24, 2009 - 2:21 PM
    Is there some reason why a loofa won't do?

    Or a good washcloth?

    Or how about plain old fashioned sand? I mean if you want tiny sharp stuff like ground up nuts wouldn't sand would be a cheap easy alternative You do know that nut shells are so harsh that they are used as a sand blasting compound with some advantages over sand.

    Maybe I should ask what it about nut shells that you see as somehow worth all the effort of grinding 'em up just to abrade your skin.

    Which leads me to wonder why any one would want to do that in the first place.

    I mean won't the dead cells just fall off on their own and wouldn't one prefer not to dislodge the living ones while they are still useful?

    You can probably guess that this exfoliation stuff has really got me as tad confused.
    • Re: Nut shell grinders

      Sun, April 26, 2009 - 10:06 AM
      My area "FreeCycle" has some free almond shells and since I'm creative, I thought I'd try making a exfoilerator. It's just my curious nature.

      I have dry skin, especially, on my legs and the dry skin doesn't seem to fall off by itself. I have used a wash cloth and other things, but due to my creative nature, I thought I'd make exfoilerator. I take oil baths and it helps. I'd much rather have nice, smooth silky legs, so I experiment.

      When I go to the beach I do rub sand on my legs...feels so good. There's nothing like nature.

      I checked out your profile and you sound like an interesting person. Quite a thinker. Glad you like music.

      Thanks for your input. :)
  • Re: Nut shell grinders

    Fri, April 24, 2009 - 3:42 PM
    You would have to mill them.. The most primitive would be a rock with a channel worn into it with a somewhat similar shaped stone to push across it. Many cultures still use them to grind corn. Here in the Southwest you still see them on occasion at various swap meets and farmers markets.

    Not up to the labor... you do the next step up... 2 stone disks one with grooves the size of material you need the other flat. Hook up a mule to an extended arm and walk him around in a circle. This was a huge tech leap by western man in the milling of various materials.

    The problem with your basic coffee grinder... Not strong enough and no consistency control... a coffee burr grinder will smoke on ya as well.

    That means it is gonna get pricy cause you are looking for a fairly specialized machine.

    So where does that leave you. I would consider buying preground seed grit... I have seen it at health food stores. You can replace coffee grinders <the expensive types> repeatedly. Or you can try to use a rotory grinder and end up with a burned out motor and razor sharp shards.

    So don't have a cheap answer for you that is easy... But maybe these are things you can look at when trying stuff out.
    oh heres a link to a place that sells preground material
    www.pinemeadows.net/exfoliates.php


    JSin
    • Re: Nut shell grinders

      Fri, April 24, 2009 - 4:19 PM
      You might try getting some results between different kinds of masonry. Unfinished concrete or bricks *might* do what you want, but the aforementioned groove is usually essential to ensuring some uniformity of product.
      • Re: Nut shell grinders

        Fri, April 24, 2009 - 9:02 PM
        If you decide this project is more than it's worth,
        try baking soda and a washcloth :)
        Very affordable.
        • Re: Nut shell grinders

          Fri, April 24, 2009 - 11:49 PM
          2 options:

          - meat grinder... the hand crank type as used for sausage making, .Made of cast itron with a spiral screw feed that macerateds input through an orfice plate.Capable of reducing bone so why not nutshells. Has the added benefit of toning firming upper body through the tcranking.

          - for commercial apps where you need a mechanical labor-saving device for quantity production. A garbace disposal unit may be removed from a scrapped sink, built into a mounting frame having a feed-hopper with a collection bin beneath.

          Another productive skin treatment is rubbing all over with sea salt... having the effect of making the skin give up oils, toxins in the sweat. Cleansing.
          in general, scrubbing hard is a great way to exfoliate stimulate and renew tired flaccid skin. How do you think great-granny had those superb rosy cheeks? beauty secret. More power... do it, girl!


          ** Although this advice is free,your feeedback is requested. If you find these suggestions helpful, then make a positive comment, or testimonial.
          • Re: Nut shell grinders

            Sat, April 25, 2009 - 6:45 AM
            The sea salt option is probably the best choice for creating an inexpensive and serviceable scrub without massive issues with shell size consistency.

            JSin
          • Re: Nut shell grinders

            Sun, April 26, 2009 - 7:56 PM
            A hand crank meat grinder would work. I'd have to put some type of top on it, so the shells wouldn't fly out. I don't know why I hadn't thought about sea salt, silly me. I always have some and it would be better for the drains.

            Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.
            • Re: Nut shell grinders

              Sun, April 26, 2009 - 8:52 PM
              w/re: Grinder -
              The shells have to be hammered a little beforehand to get pieces to go down into that spiraling feed piece... maybe each shell half broken in two will do it. try.

              w/re: salt - This works best rubbed on before or during a sweatbath & will promote cleansing sweat... as in sweatlodge or sauna application. Largegrain rocksalt works best, also seasalt is good. Granulated salt like Mortons not so good. Rub it on all over.

              Thank you the appreciation.
            • Re: Nut shell grinders

              Mon, April 27, 2009 - 9:01 AM
              Hand cranking at about 10 revolutions per minute (as opposed to mechanical grinding at 1500 rpm) has you totally in control of the process. i.e.: things won't go flying out. On the contrary, you need to fill the funnel hoipper above, and exert slight pressure with the palm of your hand downward, in order to get the raw material to feed into the spiral-shaped macerator. A half walnut shell may be too big, so maybe you'll have to crack it down further to get them in.

              But once you get going I'll bet you can figure that part out.
        • Re: Nut shell grinders

          Sun, April 26, 2009 - 7:59 PM
          Thanks to everyone who gave me ideas about grinding nut shells. Some of the ideas were so simple, I don't know why I didn't think of them in the first place.

          Happy trails.
    • Re: Nut shell grinders

      Sat, April 25, 2009 - 1:09 PM
      Huh.

      I guess I'm the only one with a 1/4 hp coffee mill....

      I've also used a good Osterizer blender to wck shells down to a reasonable starting size to grind by hand. Ya need to wear ear plugs though and spin it on "pulse" adding shells to an already spinning blender.
    • Re: Nut shell grinders

      Sun, April 26, 2009 - 10:38 AM
      Well, I once, ground coffee beans using a large rock and cast iron pan. Took a good while to make enough grounds for three people, but when you want coffee, you want coffee. So, I'm done hand grinding, for now and I don't have a mule.

      Thanks for turning me on to the pinemeadows site, I love it! I'll be making all kinds of nice smelling stuff.

      I'll also check my local farmers markets.

      Mucho smoocho.
  • Re: Nut shell grinders

    Fri, April 24, 2009 - 11:53 PM
    Set up a belt sander as a grinder so that it spits the ground shell to a container under it. You'll need to attach it to a bench or something, and lock the switch in the on position. Pick up a switch for a router table so that you can turn it on remotely, or otherwise wire up a light switch. So at this point, you place a container under the belt sander, turn it on and proceed to push nut shells into the sand paper. You'll want to use the roughest grit paper you can.
    Be carefull not to grind the shell down too far or you'll end up exfoliating your' finger tips of usefull flesh.
  • Re: Nut shell grinders

    Sat, April 25, 2009 - 8:37 AM
    How about putting the stuff in a steel container under a few pounds of ANFO and lighting that off.

    Even the ANFO is a DIY project.



    I'm still wondering why nut shells are desirable over other things and I'm still curious about the whole exfoliation thing.

    • Re: Nut shell grinders

      Sat, April 25, 2009 - 11:20 AM
      I've used craft soap with ground walnut shells (my GF is into this stuff) and I have to say that it's much more comfortable than the stuff with sand, ect.
      I must say though that this is probably not the greatest DIY project. There are guys on eBay selling ground walnut shells at the rate of 12lb for $20 and that's after shipping. Ultimately you're not paying for the actual shells, but the work of grinding them. Using the belt sander idea, you're probably looking at a couple pounds per hour. I wouldn't be too keen on this for saving $3/hr.
    • Re: Nut shell grinders

      Sat, April 25, 2009 - 2:37 PM
      ANFO?
      • Re: Nut shell grinders

        Sun, April 26, 2009 - 10:53 AM
        OK, another apology that I don't know what the F ANFO is. Am I totally out of the loop?
        • Re: Nut shell grinders

          Sun, April 26, 2009 - 1:38 PM
          **********I'm creative and have time on my hands. ;) ***********

          Ohh my kind of girl.
          I'll be right over.



          Anfo? embarrassed? Naaaahhh
          It's pure nitrogen fertilizer and fuel oil. It blows up. It blows up really big for a tertiary explosive compound. It blows up so well it's the go to explosive for most strip mining and gravel quarrying operations.

          It's a cinch that it'd crush nut shells. enough might turn 'em into diamonds. Not great diamonds but diamonds just the same.


          However, unless you own your own patch of dessert or wilderness large enough that no one would hear you crushing your nut shells it might not be the best solution. FBI , state cops and all that.
    • Re: Nut shell grinders

      Sun, April 26, 2009 - 10:44 AM
      The almond shells are free and I like the idea that they are natural.
      • Re: Nut shell grinders

        Sun, April 26, 2009 - 1:43 PM
        ********** The almond shells are free and I like the idea that they are natural. ***************

        Hard to beat free - - unless the amount of exercise you need to undertake to get the value of the free thing exceeds the perceived value that drew you to it in the first place .

        Nut shells are excellent wood stove fuel. So if you heat with wood and can get enough nut shells it might be an excellent supplement.
        Keep an eye on the oxygen level though. The shells can generate enormous heat is left to burn freely.

        As for "natural" Everything is natural. Otherwise it wouldn't exist.
  • Re: Nut shell grinders

    Mon, April 27, 2009 - 12:39 PM
    almond shells are pretty fiber-y...I'm not sure they would work as well as walnut or apricot seed shells. Good luck, though. If you have really dry skin you might try using less soap or moisturizing more, or not shaving. Shaving and soap dry the hell out of skin, but a good salve or NATURAL lotion can help a lot. Excess exfoliation causes microscarring which eventually reduces the elasticity of the skin.

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