my bathroom sink clogs every couple of months - just won't drain.
this is puzzling, because all I use it for is washing my hands and face with plain old soap and water (nothing goopy, no scrubs, no grains, no masques etc), and brushing my teeth. when I brush my hair, if any strays fall into the sink, I swipe them out immediately . nothing "clog-inducing" goes down that drain.
the apt. mgr. has used a "snake " on it several times.
what's going on ? the only other preventative measure I can think of is simply never using the sink.
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this is puzzling, because all I use it for is washing my hands and face with plain old soap and water (nothing goopy, no scrubs, no grains, no masques etc), and brushing my teeth. when I brush my hair, if any strays fall into the sink, I swipe them out immediately . nothing "clog-inducing" goes down that drain.
the apt. mgr. has used a "snake " on it several times.
what's going on ? the only other preventative measure I can think of is simply never using the sink.
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Re: sink clogs - why they happen, what are home remedies that work
Fri, February 1, 2008 - 4:19 PMpossiblty a lot of dumb bends in the DWV line, not enough fall once you get to the horizontal stretches, and I bet it drains into a 1 1/2" trunk line not a 2".
Boiling a stew pot of water and putting it down the line helps with the soap scime and doesn't necessitate the use of acids/liquid plumr.
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Sat, February 2, 2008 - 6:41 AMUnless you installed the sink and the drain lines (or the building is new) you prolly have years of shit in the lines. Gluey greasy hair matted crap builds up in drain lines and the only way to get it out is with a snake. You can rent a snake.
Chemicals will dissolve the pipes Garden hoses and other blaster things risk blowing old weak seals apart.
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Sat, February 2, 2008 - 7:58 AMA cup of bleach once a month, run abt. a cup of water on top of it and let it stand. I do it when I'm leaving the house for at least an hour. -
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Sun, February 3, 2008 - 8:45 AMBleach is a caustic It is a strong base and does in fact dissolve copper and iron - at a fairly rapid clip.
It's not so aggressive as hydrochloric acid 20% technical, but it will wreck your pipes. -
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Sun, February 3, 2008 - 1:07 PMYou'd have to be in a pretty old, and well kept house to still have iron pipes, some brass traps under the sink, but I don't recall ever having seen copper drain pipes. -
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Sun, February 3, 2008 - 1:41 PM*****************You'd have to be in a pretty old, and well kept house to still have iron pipes, some brass traps under the sink, but I don't recall ever having seen copper drain pipes.**************
Interesting point Dan. Indeed most of them these days are PVC and it's pretty much resistant to Chlorine.
I however, have never lived in a building that didn't have copper and iron.
So I guess the caveat to the bleach is "look before you pour"
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Sat, February 2, 2008 - 10:39 AMFor sink therapy, I like to rinse Ajax (or similar) down the sink often. Hopefully it works on any build up.
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Sat, February 2, 2008 - 9:04 PMI'm not normally a product endorser, but when I had drainage problems (due to build up) I got this stuff called "bio rooter" from the roto-rooter company. It's not acid/chemical but live enzymes so it won't damage the pipes - just "eats" the gunk. Your pour some down the drain then chase w/warm water... let sit for six hours. I just did it right before I went to bed. -
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Sun, February 3, 2008 - 6:23 AMEnzimes wont " eat" soap scum build up, only organic matter. So good for kitchen, probaly no effect on the bathroom , other that the hair.
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Thu, March 20, 2008 - 4:42 PMAlso endorse "bio rooter" and other products designed for septic tank use.
They all contain enzymes and bacteria that think our gunk is delicious!
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Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:53 AM
> Re: sink clogs - why they happen, <
Time, age and the crap we put into them.
(sinks are connected to the same line as it's dirty cousin the toilet.)
build up of mineral deposits - clog the arteries - seriously altering the free and steady flow - and gives areas - platforms for stuff to build up.
It is perhaps a natural occurrence that comes with "maturity"
we have to be more careful what we put into our drains.
> what are home remedies that work <
exercise, good diet, a good attitude... and a kettle full of boiling water once a month can melt away any build up that can be melted.
A snake is a more responsible approach to the greater organism than harsh chemical solutions.
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Mon, February 4, 2008 - 3:16 PMthanks for all the ideas everyone ! I'm trying the boiling water treatment tonight. then maybe the bi-rooter next.
and I borrowed a snake we bought for the office (now that's a statistically improable phrase !) so I will use that as a last resort becuase it's a pain to remove the drain stopper plunger- thing out and then replace it ...
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Tue, February 5, 2008 - 1:25 AMI had lots of problems with my sink and bathtub. What worked was dumping about 1/3 gallon of bleach down the drain, waiting 4 hours, then dumping a big pot of boiling water. No slowdowns for a year since doing that.
Just bleach or water didn't do it, and snaking only offered temporary relief. Something about the bleach/water combo seemed to do it in my case. -
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Tue, February 5, 2008 - 1:36 PMwe hae pvc pipes, and they are constantly! getting clogged.
I have used baking soda and water, but it comes back soon after.
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Tue, February 5, 2008 - 4:41 PMI know baking soda will keep the smell down, but I've never heard of using it to clear the pipes. But as you said, it doesn't seem to work. Hmmmm, could be why I havn't heard of it as a drain opener ! -
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Tue, February 5, 2008 - 5:42 PMLOL i am so sorry i forgot to add....vinegar. LOLOL
sorry about that!!
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Fri, February 29, 2008 - 2:00 PMI've also found that pouring boiling water in the sink also works very well. Just remember one thing though.... make sure your pipes aren't PVC or else you know what; Melty Melty.
Jason
Kohler Sinks and Faucets blog
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Fri, February 29, 2008 - 3:14 PM>> make sure your pipes aren't PVC or else you know what; Melty Melty. <<
Oh come on ! If you think hot water will melt PVC pipes, you should NOT be posting advice. Better to ask questions and learn. And who does'nt have PVC pipes these days ? :-( -
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Tue, March 4, 2008 - 12:01 PMSorry, bad joke. I thought no one would take that seriously.
Jason
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Thu, March 20, 2008 - 4:35 PM"If you think hot water will melt PVC pipes, you should NOT be posting advice" Hmmmm. . . .
PVC pressure specifications are based upon a temperature of 73deg. F.
At 100deg. F the de-rating factor is 0.62; at 140deg. F, the de-rating factor is 0.22.
By the time you get to the boiling point (no ATSM de-rating factor is given for temp. that high), strength is just about non-existent.
As there is little pressure on drain lines there is nil probability of bursting, however, it will deform, especially on a poorly supported long run, and removable joints can easily develop leaks. ;)
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Thu, February 7, 2008 - 6:08 PMI deal with a clogged tub every month or so (the price I pay for long hair)... it doesn't make sense why your sink gets backed up.
You may have something stuck in the pipe that is causing the problem. Have you thought of having a plumber out who has one of those cameras on the end of his snakey-thing?
My old landlord once had to replace my toilet because (after many snakings and a couple of plumbers look at it) the problem couldn't be found. They took the old toilet outside, set it on the ground, and a TOOTHBRUSH fell out! (No, I didn't eat the toothbrush; there was a medicine cabinet over that toilet) Snakes went around it, but ever couple of days it would back up... well, you get the point. Luckily my old landlord is a good family friend :)
Not that you have a toothbrush in that itty-bitty pipe; but there may be something in there. Just a thought.
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Fri, February 8, 2008 - 12:26 PMAnd speaking of odd things found in toilets... The two worse toilet clogs I ever had to deal with when a plumber:
A "real lemon" lemon shaped plastic bottle... Once the toilet was outside and upside down, I could just see it in the 'S' bend, but could not get a hold of it... Solution? a torch...
two family sized bars of "life bouy" soap, still in the double wrapping... I could not get a snake down into the drain... it went like SLAM!!! pull the 6 inche out and it had a blue green waxy substance... Pulled toilet and flipped it. Tried everything I had for a half hour and then made them buy a new toilet for 60 bucks... How do I know it was Life Bouy? Took a hammer to the beast to get it into a trash can. I handed the lady back the soap...
As for copper drain lines, It's quite common in older 3+ story buildings on the west coast and I saw a lot of 4" and 3" copper waste lines in SF.
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Tue, February 12, 2008 - 6:58 AMWOW---I did the bleach and boiling water last night....cleared my sink up immediately!!!!!! most cool -
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Tue, February 12, 2008 - 8:16 AMIf one's home is connected to a septic tank, certain methods are not advisable. Just about anything goes if the home is connected to the city sewer. -
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Thu, February 28, 2008 - 11:25 PMthat's strange.. don't know how that link got in there
The hot water sounds interesting but I'm not sure how well that will work. For two weeks now I've tried to clear a clog in the place I'm staying. It's a nice cabin with heated floors. The toilet flows just fine but the shower, bathroom and kitchen sink back up. If they back up too much then the heating does not work. I suspect the water heater has some kind of sensor that can detect the lack of out flow. It gets pretty cold here.
I've tried many bottles of draino, snaked the line from the bathroom and kitchen and tried plunging and those inflatable pulsating jets you put in the line. None have worked.
I'll try next pulling the washer out and seeing if I can snake from it's drain. Perhaps that will get me closer to the problem. As yet snaking from the other sinks has not gotten me very far before the snake binds up.
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Fri, February 29, 2008 - 12:37 AMIs the backup consistent? How long can you run the water before it backs up? That gives you a clue on how far the clog is along the drain.
It sounds like you might have a clog down deep. I was in a house once where the main drain ran 100 feet to the sewer and some tree roots had found their way into the pipe, clogging it. A plummer had to bring in a really freakin long snake in to get all of them. -
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Fri, February 29, 2008 - 6:03 AMYeah, a 100' motorized snake with a few different hooks/heads will do the trick. You can rent one for a fraction of the price of a service call. Sound like time to stop farting around from the appliance drain points and get at a cleanout or any section of the 3 or 4 inch main DWV lines.
Also, drainage flow can putt out to a trickle if the venting was done incorrectly and/or skime blocks a vent creating a suction locked stretch of drain. Worth checking at least... but the big pro snake and better access will put this to rest probably. -
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Sat, March 1, 2008 - 1:25 AMOnce the snow melts a bit from around the cabin I can go looking for that external access point. I've seen them on other buildings but can't find the one for this place. -
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Sun, March 2, 2008 - 9:39 AMJust for gits and shiggles I tried to snake again from every point I could and still no luck. I'm not convince this clog is beyond my ability to repair. I tried the bleach-hot water suggestion too. The snow is melting back but I've not found this access point from the main line mentioned before. Would going route that even work when the toilet is flowing ok but it's just smaller line leading to sink/tub? The clog seems like its at the point where the bathroom and kitchen line combine in/near the house.
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Sat, March 1, 2008 - 6:58 PMSince we are on a septic tank we use baking soda and vinegar. A little baking soda then a little vinegar creates a foam. I works well. -
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Sun, March 2, 2008 - 12:29 PMI use this and it works great:
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Sun, March 2, 2008 - 4:07 PM>> Zipitclean<< The only sure fire way to prevent pregnancy, and avoid those nasty STD's !! :-) -
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Mon, March 3, 2008 - 9:58 AMfor days I've snaked every orifice, plunged, hosed, used chemicals. - No improvement.
Added two bottle of draino and let sit 12 hours, did not use any other sinks or water during that time. After twelve hours poured ~3 gallons of boiling water down the drain. - SUCCESS! -
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Mon, March 3, 2008 - 12:35 PMHuzzah!
Now to keep it clog free!
I was thinking of boiling some water for my bathroom sink this morning.
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Tue, March 4, 2008 - 8:49 AM> A little baking soda then a little vinegar creates a foam. I works well. <
I don't understand how this could work. Baking soda is alkaline, no? Vinegar is acetic acid. Alkali plus acid = neutral.
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Tue, March 4, 2008 - 10:19 AMOne possible mechanism of action is the foaming that results when the two are mixed. The formation of air bubbles helps to break up a compacted fibrous material. It's effectiveness depends on what's causing the clog and how compacted it is.
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Tue, March 4, 2008 - 3:55 PMAnd the foam is nothing but Carbon Dioxide gas in bubbles of the degraded vinegar.
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:31 AMHey, The plug is the missing ingredient!
I dunno if baking soda and baking powder are the same? But I use Baking POWDER and vinegar. But with the plug in after very quickly!
Anyone ever have those old camera film containers when you were kids??? Or actually even now if you don't take digital photos. Theyre little black plastic cylinder thingamies (yes of coarse thats their technical name lol!)
Anyway, a bit of baking powder in one of those, a little bit of vinegar, quickly put on the lid and shake once, throw FAST! lol! The lid pops off, foam goes EVERYWHERE! Woo hoo! every..where!?.......--silence?-- Oh .......ahem! ...Well it seemed a lot more exciting as a kid lol!
So I use vinegar and baking powder in totally blocked drains with that same concept in mind. The combo seems to eat thru hair or do something weird. But the part not mentioned in previous posts is the necessity to put the plug in!
It fizzes up and all that, but I think what the foam doesn't cleanse, the air pressure makes up for. The build up would sorta push things thru a little faster. And the little magic bubbles cleanse as it calms down. Well thats what I reckon anyway.
But please, don't do too much just incase? I'd hate to be responsible for something hugely funny happening like the entire pipe burst or some such incrediblly unlikely event. (However, I'd love photos on that rare occasion? he he!)
ANyway, so I hope that helps someone? Its all in the plug! Go the plug! ha! : ) -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 2:22 PMBaking powder is a leavening agent that has Baking soda<what is reacting to your vinegar and sodium aluminum sulphate which does not. So basically you are spending a LOT more money than you need to. Stick with the basic Arm n Hammer type stuff.
As to clogs usually the first thing I do before starting preventative maintainance <hot water> is take out the trap assembly and clean it out physically.
JSin
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Fri, May 23, 2008 - 7:28 AMI use baing soda and vinegar on a regular basis. I also use a screen over the tub drain to catch hair (It was purchased from the pet store for washing dogs in tub) it is a soft plastic that doesn't scratch to finish on the tub and is raised in the center to fit over the drain.